7 best netgear n900 routers

Product description

• Faster WiFi—Up to 450+450 Mbps. Gigabit wired—Ideal for HD gaming & video
• Simultaneous dual band 2.4GHz & 5GHz
• Advanced QoS—Optimized for smooth HD streaming & gaming.
• Five 10/100/1000 (1 WAN and 4 LAN) Gigabit Ethernet ports with auto-sensing technology.
• Two USB 2.0 port. WiFi Protected Access (WPA/WPA2—PSK) and WEP, Double firewall protection (SPI and NAT firewall), Denial-of-service (DoS) attack prevention.

User questions & answers

Question:	Does this Router allow you to set Device by Device restrictions? Like setting up times that devices can use the internet, etc
Answer:	I think you are referring to MAC Address Filtering, usually used to block wireless devices from even being able to get anywhere near your network (theoretically). I have this same router but V1 and while it used to be called MAC filtering, over the past updates they for some reason made it extremely difficult to find. If this V2 is like my updated V1, it will be called Wireless Card Access List, and it can be found under the Advanced tab, under the categories below that called Advanced Setup and under Wireless Settings. At the bottom of Wireless Settings you will see Wireless Card Access List, there click the button showing Set Up Access List. It's tricky to use. If you have Turn Access Control On checked, then unless that MAC address is on that list, it won't be able to even try to connect and you won't see it attempting. As long as you have the MAC address from the wifi device then this being ON is find and you can proceed to add it to the list. If you don't know the MAC you may need to uncheck that box and go out and back into the router for the list to update and it show you the MAC to the device you are trying to add. Not idea but a work around. Like I said, for some reason Netgear made MAC Address Filtering way too difficult. Maybe the V2 is completely different than this, but I'd imagine it's the same sadly. Hope this helps you.
Question:	how far is the range on the netgear n
Answer:	I just had this router installed by my ISP. I'm very impressed with it so far. I have a 2 acre lot around my 3700 square foot house. It covers the first acre of it at 2.4Ghz and covers the entire house at 5Ghz but doesn't go very far outside. Of course limited range is one of the things about 5G.
Question:	Will this router work with the Kindle Fire HDX
Answer:	Having just purchased and installed this device, I can connect a laptop, but when I try to connect my Kindle HDX 8.9 OR my windows phone, neither can connect. I have the device setup in WAP mode (wireless access point), and both devices see the connections (both 2.4 and 5), but the windows phone says there is no response and cancels, while the Kindle starts to connect, and then will sit for hours 'getting IP address', 'Authenticating', 'Saved', and then repeat the process over and over again, never connecting, and never stopping to try and connect.I believe there is a problem with the software when placed in WAP mode, but cannot be sure. Cisco support is a complete waste of time, so I am searching the internet for an answer.
Question:	Is this a version 2 model? The picture shows a USB 3.0 port which signifies it's a version
Answer:	Although the description and photos indicate a v2, this is *not* a guarantee that you'll get the newer hardware. The -100PAS extension indicates that the packaging and other materials are specialized for the Canadian market, for which there are also v1 and v2 revisions of the hardware. Netgear didn't change the model number when they introduced the v2, leading to much confusion for retailers. For both this and the other listing with the -100NAS extension (ASIN:B0081H8TRA NETGEAR Wireless Router - AC1750 Dual Band Gigabit (R6300)) you will currently receive either the v1 or v2 model, randomly, depending on what gets grabbed off the shelf.

Product description

Combined Modem and Router in one Unit. DOCSIS 3.0 - up to 8x times faster than DOCSIS 2.0. Faster WIFI - Up to 900 Mbps. Integrated 4-port Gigabit Ethernet switch. Simultaneous Dual Band - Reduce interference for better connections to more WIFI devices. Advanced QoS - Optimized for smooth HD streaming & gaming. Wirelessly access and share USB hard drive

• Combined Modem and Router in one Unit
• DOCSIS 3.0 - up to 8x times faster than DOCSIS 2.0
• Faster WIFI - Up to 900 Mbps
• Integrated 4-port Gigabit Ethernet switch
• Enhanced HD gaming and video experience with Gigabit Ethernet

User questions & answers

Question:	What's the typical range? How far will it reach
Answer:	Not a far range use in home of a 1000sqft it would work good
Question:	Which version is this
Answer:	WNDR4500-100NAS Old wifi5 network Up to 900mbps speed
Question:	What is the power consumption w/ no HDD
Answer:	1) As to actual watage, I don't have an answer. It does appear to be nominal. Power will be less w/o a HDD though.2) The fan is variable, based on factory settings. The hotter the environment, the higher the speed. There have been reports of a "noisy" fan, though in my environment it is not an issue. If it is in a general living area or bedroom, only the buyer can know how much impact it'll have.3) A router's nature is to provide service 24x7, therefore no inactivity shutdown is designed into the product. The power consumption (for my environment) is one very small part of my overall power-footprint of my home, therefore it has not been an issue.Note: Sound from the device is not dependent on the HDD specifically. Since the HDD may be derrived from multiple sources, how noisy the HDD is, is entirely dependent on the HDD. There does not appear to be any sound dampening insultation. The fan though; when running a quiet HDD is audible. It depends entirely on the setting where it is installed.I hope this helps.
Question:	Does this com with a Hred Drive
Answer:	WNDR4700 (Does not). WNDR4720 Should come with a hard drive. UNLESS someone is selling a WNDR with a bundled in added Hard Drive
Question:	Does router support spin-down or sleep-mode for internal 3.5" hard drive
Answer:	I have a model WNDR4700 and it is based on the same system as your N900. To the best of my knowledge and experience none of the Netgear Centria models allow a sleep mode for the internal hard drive or an external USB drive. The drive must stay active at all time for access by any one with a network conection. They could have put a sleep mode in the firmware but appear to not do it for 24/7 full access. Bugs me too but you can turn off the network to save the electricity.
Question:	Does it make any noise? Does the hard drive ever goes into stand-by? Would you be comfortable with the router in a bedroom
Answer:	This is a good router that I am pleased with. However it does make a fair amount of noise, and I would not put it in my bedroom.

Product description

New N900 wireless provides up to 450+450 Mbps speed and with simultaneous dual-band technology avoids interference ensuring top WiFi speeds and reliable connections. It supports a wide range of new features and applications such as ReadySHARE Cloud, ReadySHARE Printer, and is Time Machine compatible to create a powerful home network for applications such as streaming 3DHD video and multi-player gaming. Improved wireless range delivers better connections for larger homes and multiple devices, while four Gigabit Ethernet ports offer ultra-fast wired connections. Two USB ports enable faster USB access speeds for wireless connections to external hard drives and printers.

• FASTER WIFI—Up to 900 Mbps
• GIGABIT WIRED—Ideal for HD gaming & video
• RANGE—Improved for larger homes
• DLNA—Find & play your media on DLNA TVs & game consoles
• PUSH 'N' CONNECT— Easy push button WiFi connections (WPS)

Product description

Accelerate your WiFi with net gear Nighthawk. Enjoy the fastest WiFi currently available, with speeds up to 1900 Mbps and a powerful dual Core 1GHz processor for extreme performance. High-powered amplifiers, external antennas and beamforming+ improve range and reliability for up to 100% more wireless coverage. Features like Dynamic QoS prioritize streaming and gaming, creating a blazing-fast, lag-free WiFi experience. R7000 provides an extensible design that enables service prioritization for data. Design that delivers high availability, scalability, and for maximum flexibility and price/performance. Make sure that the network settings of the computer are correct. Wired and wirelessly connected computers must use network (IP) addresses on the same network as the router. The simplest way to do this is to configure each computer to obtain an IP address automatically using DHCP.

• Fast wifi performance: Get up to 1800 square feet wireless coverage with AC1900 speed (Dual band up to 600 + 1300 Mbps)
• Recommended for up to 30 devices: Reliably stream videos, play games, surf the internet, and connect smart home devices
• Wired Ethernet ports: plug in computers, game consoles, streaming players, and other nearby wired devices with 4 x 1 gigabit Ethernet ports
• Loaded with advanced technology: Designed with a 1GHz dual core processor, 3 amplified antennas, Beamforming+, Dynamic QoS, Smart Connect, Amazon Alexa Voice Controls, and more
• USB connections: Share a storage drive and printer with any connected device, and create a personal cloud storage to access from anywhere, using the 1x3.0 and 1x2.0 USB ports
• Smart parental controls: Pause device internet access, view site history usage, and filter websites for free. Set online time limits, schedule device internet access, and more for $4.99/month (1st month free trial)
• Netgear Armor Powered by BitDefender: The world’s leading cybersecurity protects all your home devices from virus, malware, and data theft with a 30-day free trial
• Safe & secure: Supports WPA2 wireless security protocols. Includes Guest WiFi access, DoS, Firewall, VPN, and more

Product features

Better WiFi? We’ve got you covered.

Up to 1,800 sq. ft of powerful WiFi coverage

Easily upgrade your WiFi experience and coverage with the Nighthawk R7000. Range-boosting Beamforming+ antennas and Dual Band streaming deliver fast, reliable WiFi to every corner of your home.

Built for Serious Streaming

Up to 1900Mbps wireless speed for demanding activities like HD streaming and online gaming.

Seamless WiFi for up to 30 Devices

Intelligently selects between dual bands to minimize interference and maximize speed for your many smart wireless devices.

NETGEAR Armor: Powered by BitDefender

The world’s leading cybersecurity software protects all your home devices from virus, malware, and data theft with a 30-day free trial.

Circle Smart Parental Control

The Circle App lets you easily manage internet content access and device screen time. Use the app to set usage time limits, device schedules, filter websites and more for every connected device in your home.

Easy 5-Minute Setup with App

The Nighthawk App makes it a snap to set up your router. Just connect your internet Ethernet cable to the router and the app will walk you through simple setup steps. Connect your devices to the network and you’re done.

Four High-Speed 1G Wired Connections

Gigabit Ports give you fast wired connections to your computer, game box and other devices. Two USB ports let you share a storage drive or printer across your network.

Product description

The NETGEAR AC1200 Smart Wi-Fi Router with dual band Gigabit provides 300+900Mbps speeds and improved Wi-Fi coverage. It has external antennas for improved Wi-Fi coverage for larger homes. Features include an 880MHz processor for reliable performance and the USB 2.0 port provides wireless access and sharing of USB hard drives. In case of the router having trouble connecting to the network, cannot connect wirelessly, check the following: Is your computer or mobile device connected to another WiFi network in your area? Some WiFi devices automatically connect to the first open network without WiFi security that they discover and is your computer or mobile device trying to connect to y our network with its old settings (before you changed the settings)? If so, update the WiFi network selection in your computer or mobile device to match the current settings f or your network.

• FAST WiFi PERFORMANCE: Get up to 1200 square feet wireless coverage with AC1200 speed (Dual band up to 300 + 900 Mbps).
• RECOMMENDED FOR UP TO 20 DEVICES: Reliably stream videos, play games, surf the internet, and connect smart home devices. System Requirement - Microsoft Windows 7, 8, 10, Vista, XP, 2000, Mac OS, UNIX, or Linux , Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Edge, Firefox 2.0, Safari 1.4, or Google Chrome 11.0 browsers or higher , Use laptop with 2x2 300 Mbps adapter like Centrino 6205/6235, 3x3 450Mbps adapter like Centrino 6300/5300, or 802.11ac adapter like NETGEAR A6210 for maximum performance
• WIRED ETHERNET PORTS: Plug in computers, game consoles, streaming players, and other nearby wired devices with 4 x 1 Gigabit Ethernet ports.
• LOADED WITH ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY: Designed with an 880MHz processor, 2 amplified antennas, and advanced QoS.
• USB CONNECTIONS: Share a storage drive or printer with any network connected device using the 1 x 2.0 USB port.
• SMART PARENTAL CONTROLS: The Nighthawk app lets you manage device internet access and filter websites.
• SAFE & SECURE: Supports WPA2 wireless security protocols. Includes Guest WiFi access, DoS, Firewall, VPN, and more.

User questions & answers

Question:	I recently upgraded to Verizon gigabit and the modem router they give is lackluster. Does this just connect via Ethernet to the modem
Answer:	Yes. Connect the R7800 to the FiOS router (they don't use modems) by attaching an ethernet cable to one of the FiOS router's LAN ports, and the other end to any of the ports on the R7800. Then set up the R7800 in AP mode, and disable the Wifi of the FiOS router (not critical, but neater). The FiOS router will assign all the IP addresses, and the R7800 will provide wireless services. Works like a charm. You can use the LAN ports of both the FiOS router and the R7800 for wired connections.
Question:	Is this device able to plug and play via ethernet cable from my cable modem to extend my cable wifi range
Answer:	Yes. All of these Netgear routers can either be used as range extenders OR wired into becoming the primary internet source for your home. The latter is actually recommended, if your cable modem is basic and/or sends a weaker than warranted WiFi signal.
Question:	what are the two bands
Answer:	2.4 and 5
Question:	I have 150mbps service will this router give me that if I do a speed text
Answer:	I don't own this router, but I'd agree with Apollo Grace. Anything that's going to be using this ethernet port will be bottlenecked at 100Mbit maximum. If you're just using this for WiFi only or if you don't mind a maximum speed of 100Mbit on the ethernet port, then buy it. But there are similar products out there for the same price range with Gigabit ports allowing the full WiFi speed to go through the ethernet ports. https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC1200-Smart-WiFi-Router/dp/B01IUDUJE0 (TP-Link Archer C1200) for example, and it's cheaper.

Product features

Better Wi-Fi? We’ve got you covered.

Up to 1,200 sq. ft of WiFi coverage

Easily upgrade your Wi-Fi experience and coverage with the Nighthawk R6230. High-powered antennas and Dual Band streaming deliver fast, reliable Wi-Fi to every corner of your home.

Built for Fast Streaming

Up to 1200Mbps wireless speed for demanding activities like HD streaming and gaming.

Seamless WiFi for up to 20 Devices

Intelligently selects between dual bands to minimize interference and maximize speed for your many smart wireless devices.

Secure WiFi Connections

Rest easy knowing your network is protected with high-level WPA/WPA2 wireless security, double firewall protection, and the ability to create a Guest Network separate from your home network and private information.

Convenient Parental Controls

Use the Nighthawk App to effortlessly manage website access, web filtering, and even pause WiFi for individual devices and family members.

Easy 5-Minute Setup with App

The Nighthawk App makes it a snap to set up your router. Just connect your internet Ethernet cable to the router and the app will walk you through simple setup steps. Connect your devices to the network and you’re done.

Four High-Speed 1G Wired Connections

Gigabit Ports give you fast wired connections to your computer, game box and other devices. One USB port lets you share a storage drive or printer across the network.

Product description

Improve your WiFi speed and reliability with this AC1750 Smart WiFi Router, delivering speeds up to 1750Mbps. With poweful antennas and Beamforming+, this router offers the range and performance you need for large homes. Connect devices like Smart TVs and game consoles to the ultra-fast Gigabit Ethernet ports or connect a USB hard drive to one of two USB ports to create networked storage. Everything you need for a fast, fast, fast connected home. Next generation 11ac WiFi with dual band technology provides whole home coverage with Gigabit wired & wireless connections. Special Features include, Extremely fast WiFi —Up to 450+1300 Mbps, Gigabit WiFi—Next-generation WiFi now at Gigabit speeds and Gigabit wired—Ideal for HD gaming and video

• NETGEAR Certified Refurbished product is refurbished by NETGEAR to work and look as new with 90 Day Warranty and email support. Package contains all accessories and documentation for setup. NETGEAR recommends to update the firmware (via the Orbi app) to ensure up to date for best performance and security.
• AC1750 WiFi—450+1300 Mbps speeds and high-power external antennas
• Dual band—Reduces interference for better connections to more WiFi devices.
• Get up and running in minutes using your mobile device with the NETGEAR Up app.
• Advanced QoS—Optimized for smooth HD streaming and gaming.

User questions & answers

Question:	What is a R6400v
Answer:	The version 2 of the Netgear R6400 router
Question:	How is this R6400 different from the R6700 in features
Answer:	Probably just a newer version
Question:	does it work with Xfinity
Answer:	Yes, I've had mine set up and working with Xfinity for over a month without any issues. One thing to note is that I have the X1 TV Box.
Question:	Has anyone set this up as an ap "access point"? i am not ready to invest in a mesh network yet
Answer:	Yes, I use this as an access point running a cat6 Ethernet from our new Spectrum wave 2 router; works great as always. It's very simple too; it has an option in the interface to enable AP mode.
Question:	What's the exact model number for the WNDR4500v1? I have several of these which says "WNDR4500" with nothing else following it
Answer:	Hi Li Tong,You should have the WNDR4500 (v1). If it's a v2, it should be reflected in the model number on the back of the unit.Please get in touch with us at [email protected] if you have further questions!Regards,NETGEAR Team
Question:	Has anyone had good experience with two users streaming video simultaneously, say one YouTube and one on Roku? Also, any specific issues with a Roku
Answer:	I have not had any problems with youtube being used by multiple users but I do not have any experience with Roku.
Question:	Okay, dumb question maybe, but is this a modem and router, or do I need a separate modem
Answer:	This Netgear router can be used as both a router and a modem. The general answer is that you will not need a separate modem between this router and your internet service provider (ISP). However, your ISP may require you to use one of their modems to access the internet, and this may be a good idea when settings get digitally buggered-up. If you access the internet via the ISP's modem, then the ISP can help-out in resolving some basic signal problems because the ISP can remotely access their modem to determine what the problem is and probably fix it remotely. If you do not use their modem, then you are pretty much on your own when settings and performance inadvertently get scrambled. My ISP is Comcast and they provide a modem that is connected between the internet and my Netgear WNDR4500 router. I have been very pleased with the performance of both appliances. You can peruse the operator's manual for the WNDR4500 at this web address: http://documentation.netgear.com/wndr4500/enu/202-10875-02/usermanual.pdf. The documentation is quite good. Check-out the section on set-up procedures.
Question:	is it compatible with Comcast XFINITY Extreme 50 internet and Digital TV
Answer:	I have COMCAST just for the internet. the 50 mbps is minmin. My download clocks in @ 57 or 58 almost always, my upload clocks in @ 12 to 13 mbps. This router really made a world of difference. I have tried severial routers brands. this brand, this router model is GREAT !!! never had anything come near to this. Speed ,ease of hookup, looks, softwear. my wifi on smart phone galaxcy s111, is even faster than direct line to new hp, desktop.. 62 or 63 download.I'm 100 % satisfied. will never waste time on any other....

Product features

NETGEAR N900 WiFi Dual Band Gigabit Router

The N900 WiFi Dual Band Gigabit Router delivers 450+450Mbps speed and with simultaneous dual-band technology avoids interference ensuring top WiFi speeds and reliable connections.

Speed, range, connectivity

Range—For larger homes.

Faster WiFi—Up to 450+450 Mbps.

Gigabit wired—Ideal for HD gaming & video.

Simultaneous dual band—Reduces interference for better connections to more WiFi devices.

Advanced QoS—Optimized for smooth HD streaming & gaming.

Sharing

DLNA—Find & play your media on DLNA TVs & game consoles.

Readyshare USB access—Wirelessly access & share USB hard drives via two USB 2.0 port.

Readyshare Printer—Wirelessly access & share a USB printer.

Time Machine—Automatic Mac backup to a USB hard drive connected to the router.

Security

Parental controls—Web filtering for all your connected devices.

Guest network access—Separate & secure access for guests.

Secure WiFi connections—Highest level wireless security with WPA/WPA2.

VPN Support—Secure access to your home network.

NETGEAR genie App

NETGEAR genie makes installation almost effortless. Genie also allows you to easily monitor, connect & control your home network from a PC, Mac, iPhone, iPad, or Android device.

NETGEAR AC1750 Smart WiFi Router

Next generation Gigabit WiFi technology has arrived. Get 3x faster access and more reliable streaming for your home computers and mobile devices. Beamforming+ and dual band technology makes your gaming more extreme and your HD streaming smoother.

Speed, Range and Reliability

Range—For larger homes.

AC1750 WiFi—Up to 450+1300 Mbps.

Gigabit WiFi—Next-generation WiFi now at Gigabit speeds.

Gigabit Wired—Ideal for HD gaming and video.

Simultaneous dual band—Reduces interference for better connections to more WiFi devices.

Advanced QoS—Optimized for smooth HD streaming and gaming.

Sharing

DLNA—Find and play your media on DLNA TVs and game consoles.

ReadySHARE USB access—Wirelessly access and share USB hard drives via one USB 2.0 port.

One superspeed USB 3.0 port—Up to 10x faster than USB 2.0.

ReadySHARE Printer—Wirelessly access and share a USB printer.

ReadySHARE Vault—Free software for auto PC backup to a connected USB hard drive.

Security

Parental controls—Web filtering for all your connected devices.

Guest network access—Separate and secure access for guests.

Secure WiFi connections—Highest level wireless security with WPA/WPA2.

Product description

The Net gear AC1900 Dual Band Cable modem, Wi-Fi router is designed to meet DOCSIS 3.0 Specifications, making it 8x faster than DOCSIS 2.0. Router provides speeds of up to 1.9 Gbps. Ensure uninterrupted HD video streaming with industry's first 24x8 cable channel bonding, giving you the fastest download speeds, even during peak hours. Save up to 120 a year by eliminating Internet service provider rental fees. Ideal for Internet Cable services 200Mbps and above. Certified with XFINITY from Comcast, Cox, spectrum and more. Troubleshooting tip- when your modem router cannot access the Internet and your internet LED is on, register the cable Mac address or device Mac address of your modem router with your cable Internet provider. Wi-Fi Technology - 802.11 Ac.

• Save monthly rental fees: Model C7000 replaces your cable modem and Wi-Fi router, saving you up to $168/year in equipment rental fees.
• Built for fast speed: best for cable provider plans up to 400 Mbps speed. Modem technology: Engineered with 24x8 channel bonding and DOCSIS 3.0.
• Fast Wi-Fi performance: Get up to 1800 square feet wireless coverage and 30 devices connected with AC1900 speed (up to 1900 Mbps).
• Versatile connections: 4 Gigabit Ethernet ports and 2 USB ports give you fast wired connections to your computer, printer, game box, storage drive, and other devices.
• Modem technology: Engineered with 32x8 channel bonding and DOCSIS 3.1.
• Note: Refer to page 102 of user guide for troubleshooting steps

User questions & answers

Question:	What does "AC1200" mean
Answer:	AC means that the router has support for the 802.11ac (or Wi-Fi 5) wireless networking standard, which offers fast WiFi network connections on the 5GHz frequency. 1200 means the max Mbps is 1200
Question:	Does the box come with the necessary cables? (e.g. power cord and coax cable
Answer:	It does come with a power cord and either net cable. A coax is not needed since cable company should connect their end directly to the modern.
Question:	Does this modem have netgear genie
Answer:	Hello Thank you for contacting us. It has Netgear Genie App Management. Any questions please contact us again. Thanks.
Question:	I see many ppl asking about a router and answers say “modem only” but the description says wifi modem combo. what am i missing
Answer:	The confusion is due to the illogical way Amazon links questions and answers to products. There are several different products listed on this one product page. Some are just modems, others are modem/router combos. Unfortunately, all the different products on this page share the same questions and answers which aren't relevant to one another. If the description on the product you have selected says it's a modem/router combo, then it's a modem/router combo. The people saying it's only a router are answering the question based on the product their viewing or have purchased. This is a problem that effects many products throughout the Amazon site.

Product features

Why Buy Your Own Modem with WiFi?

Save up to 168 Dollars/year

Eliminates monthly rental fees that can amount 168 dollars or more per year.

Better WiFi Performance

Get superior WiFi coverage and more features compared to cable provider modems with WiFi.

Works with Major cable Providers

Works flawlessly with Xfinity by Comcast, Spectrum, and COX.*

*Not compatible with Verizon, AT&T, CenturyLink, DSL providers, DirectTV, DISH, and any bundled voice services.

Built for Serious Speed

Supports cable internet plans with speeds up to 400Mbps ensuring fast, reliable internet speed for HD streaming and more.

Up to 1800 Sq. Ft. WiFi Coverage

Enjoy strong, reliable WiFi coverage thanks to amplified antennas and range-boosting Beamforming+ technology.

Seamless WiFi for up to 30 Devices

Intelligently selects between dual bands to minimize interference and maximize speed for your many smart wireless devices.

Built for Serious Streaming

Up to 1900Mbps wireless speed (AC1900), perfect for demanding HD streaming and gaming.

Easy 5 Minute Setup

Step 1: Plug your coax cable into the modem router.

Step 2: Activate by either

(a) connect an Ethernet cable to your computer and follow the on-screen setup, or

(b) call your cable provider to activate over the phone.

Four Gigabit Ethernet ports and two USB ports give you super-fast wired connections to your computer, printer, game box, storage drive, and other devices.